gymn Digest Wed, 14 Dec 94 Volume 3 : Issue 46

Today's Topics:

Brought to you by USA Gymnastics...
Coaches ask GYMN for help! (2 msgs)
December Calendar
Don't be apathetic!
doubt of NCAA on international teams (4 msgs)
Email campaign (2 msgs)
EMail to Chuck
gymn
More on forced pregnancy story (2 msgs)
NCAA Men's Gymnastics
New life for world-class competitors... (3 msgs)
New Skills from Brisbane! (from WTC) (2 msgs)
Save Temple Gymnastics
Ticket info on AC 95? (2 msgs)
UMASS gymnastics open results (2 msgs)

This is a digest of the gymn@athena.mit.edu mailing list.

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 20:08:43 -0500 (EST)
From: ***@epix.net
Subject:
To: gymn@MIT.EDU

A rumor is going around that a judge at worlds lost his or her
credentials for cheating. We havent heard what country the judge was from or
what exactly happened . Has anyone else heard anything?




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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 1994 16:16:30 -0700 (MST)
From: ***@asu.edu
Subject: Brought to you by USA Gymnastics...

Semi-interesting stuff from the Elite Ad HOC Committee Meeting Minutes
(meeting held Oct 17, 94):

Coaches reps were Tom Forster (Colorado Aerials), Steve Nunno,
Mary Lee Tracy, Kelli Hill and Bela Karolyi ( absent- he had to wash his
hair that night). Fie and Scanlan were also there.
They discussed the goal of the US for the 1996 Olympics. "As
reflected in the USA Gymnastics Strategic Plan" (are they invading
Bosnia?) "our goal for the 1996 Olympics is to win a Gold Medal."
(capitalized like that). "In addition, the committee feels that 'the
team' concept must be emphasized in all press relations and media
promotions." (Yes, Nunno *was* there and I'm assuming he didn't object to
this obviously demanding and unfair treatment of his gymnasts ;-)).
Also, new rules everybody!!! Let's get creative with the Code.
This is for all Classics, Championships, and trials for Int.
Seniors and Juniors .
In Comp II (all around), both vaults will be averaged, BUT 0.1
BONUS if vaults from two different families are performed. If a 10.00
vault is performed, any landing deductions are to be REDUCED by 50%.
Also, the gymnasts gets 0.05 BONUS for stuck landings on any "E"
move dismounts off beam and bars, as well as the last tumbling pass on
floor. Will we see 10.05's? Gee, I can't wait.
Nothing else good.


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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 94 13:12:43 GMT
From: ***@axion.bt.co.uk
Subject: Coaches ask GYMN for help!

>Except that they can't say that legitimately, because a number of athletes
>from other countries do continue their development and improve as
>gymnasts through the NCAA at the same time that they continue to compete
>internationally, so the NCAA has a quite direct impact on those
>individuals and on the quality of teams in other countries.

That I would say is overplaying the importance other countries put on the
NCAA, I dont think that any of the international competitors in the NCAA
could affect the quality of a team from another country. For one thing the
NCAA isnt what you could say very near the standard set in World
competitions, so Id have said unless the gymnast was of outstanding ability
it wouldnt really make much of a difference to a team from a foreign
country where they had competed. The NCAA is more of a stepping stone
really its not an integral part of most nations gymanastic coaching
programs.

>I think it might make a nice statement for the NCAA to see even people
>outside the US are concerned, and anyway, what mail is sent to them
>should hardly depend on who they'll appreciate getting mail from.

Not appreciate in that context, appreciate as in they dont appreciate
people who are not directly involved and not directly affected by
their decision getting themselves involved. Its the same as if you were to
write a letter to John Major (British Prime Minister) about how your upset
about the amount of money Britain sends to Europe, I mean its like it
doesnt affect you so why get involved, more often than not it actually has a
reverse effect and actually encourages the person who received the
letter to actually make some form of personal stand against it, to prove
they cant be swayed by public opinion.

Clive

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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 94 13:12:43 GMT
From: ***@axion.bt.co.uk
Subject: Coaches ask GYMN for help!

>Except that they can't say that legitimately, because a number of athletes
>from other countries do continue their development and improve as
>gymnasts through the NCAA at the same time that they continue to compete
>internationally, so the NCAA has a quite direct impact on those
>individuals and on the quality of teams in other countries.

That I would say is overplaying the importance other countries put on the
NCAA, I dont think that any of the international competitors in the NCAA
could affect the quality of a team from another country. For one thing the
NCAA isnt what you could say very near the standard set in World
competitions, so Id have said unless the gymnast was of outstanding ability
it wouldnt really make much of a difference to a team from a foreign
country where they had competed. The NCAA is more of a stepping stone
really its not an integral part of most nations gymanastic coaching
programs.

>I think it might make a nice statement for the NCAA to see even people
>outside the US are concerned, and anyway, what mail is sent to them
>should hardly depend on who they'll appreciate getting mail from.

Not appreciate in that context, appreciate as in they dont appreciate
people who are not directly involved and not directly affected by
their decision getting themselves involved. Its the same as if you were to
write a letter to John Major (British Prime Minister) about how your upset
about the amount of money Britain sends to Europe, I mean its like it
doesnt affect you so why get involved, more often than not it actually has a
reverse effect and actually encourages the person who received the
letter to actually make some form of personal stand against it, to prove
they cant be swayed by public opinion.

Clive

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Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 14:18:07 -0500
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: December Calendar

I looked up in NBC online her on AOL and it stated that worlds will be
televised from 1:30-3:30 EST on the 17th of Dec. Slight correction.=)
---Brian

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 18:34:21 -0700 (MST)
From: ***@rmii.com
Subject: Don't be apathetic!

Re the Temple men's and women's gymnastics teams -- PLEASE do send in
a letter. The men's coach, in particular (Fred Turoff) is known and
liked by many Gymners (myself Mayland, Chops, Steve Craig, and more).
If for no other reason, please send a letter as a favor to those
Gymners who have benefited by knowing Fred. I'd really appreciate it.

Note that Bill Roth (#2 senior) trains at Temple and will need to
transfer to another gym if the program is cut. Assistant men's coach,
Stuart, will have to drop out of school at Temple and find a job if
the program is cut -- he was five time Scottish national champion
(3times junior, 2 times senior). He and his wife will have it rough
-- as she is the women's gymnastics coach.

Rachele

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 13:51:07 +1000
From: ***@pharm.med.upenn.edu
Subject: doubt of NCAA on international teams

Many of Great Britian, Isreal, Spain, Mexico, and Southern American
NATIONAL team members (many of which have been in world chamionships,
olympics, etc) have participated in the NCAA program over the years

Great Britian
Ian Shelley
Terry Bartlett
Jamie Downer

Isreal
Dubie Bader (Canada)
Danny Akerman
Ofri Porat

Spain
Migeul Rubio
Alfonso Rodriguez

Brazil
Marcelo Ribero

All of these men are writing to save the NCAA - all of them have
participated - all of them have represented their home countries after
being a part of the collegiete system in the US -- They have all had an
impact and been All-Americans in the NCAA, so there is a reason for
international interest.

Maybe these aren't the gold medal winners or international standard
setters, but they are part of gymnastics and deserve to be recognized as
contributers to the sport as a whole.

We aren't asking that NCAA be saved for gold medals, but for opportunities
for those who wouldn't have a chance without it.

Mayland


>>Except that they can't say that legitimately, because a number of athletes
>>from other countries do continue their development and improve as
>>gymnasts through the NCAA at the same time that they continue to compete
>>internationally, so the NCAA has a quite direct impact on those
>>individuals and on the quality of teams in other countries.
>
>That I would say is overplaying the importance other countries put on the
>NCAA, I dont think that any of the international competitors in the NCAA
>could affect the quality of a team from another country. For one thing the
>NCAA isnt what you could say very near the standard set in World
>competitions, so Id have said unless the gymnast was of outstanding ability
>it wouldnt really make much of a difference to a team from a foreign
>country where they had competed. The NCAA is more of a stepping stone
>really its not an integral part of most nations gymanastic coaching
>programs.
>
>>I think it might make a nice statement for the NCAA to see even people
>>outside the US are concerned, and anyway, what mail is sent to them
>>should hardly depend on who they'll appreciate getting mail from.
>
>Not appreciate in that context, appreciate as in they dont appreciate
>people who are not directly involved and not directly affected by
>their decision getting themselves involved. Its the same as if you were to
>write a letter to John Major (British Prime Minister) about how your upset
>about the amount of money Britain sends to Europe, I mean its like it
>doesnt affect you so why get involved, more often than not it actually has a
>reverse effect and actually encourages the person who received the
>letter to actually make some form of personal stand against it, to prove
>they cant be swayed by public opinion.
>
>Clive

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 18:38:00 -0500 (EST)
From: ***@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Subject: doubt of NCAA on international teams

>
> Many of Great Britian, Isreal, Spain, Mexico, and Southern American
> NATIONAL team members (many of which have been in world chamionships,
> olympics, etc) have participated in the NCAA program over the years
>
> Great Britian
> Ian Shelley
> Terry Bartlett
> Jamie Downer
>
> Isreal
> Dubie Bader (Canada)
> Danny Akerman
> Ofri Porat
>
> Spain
> Migeul Rubio
> Alfonso Rodriguez
>
> Brazil
> Marcelo Ribero
>

Mexico:
Tony Pineda
David Romero
Luis Lopez
another whose name I can't remember right now

Argentina:
Isidro Ibarrondo
Diego ? (I forget his last name; he attended Cal State Fullerton)

Puerto Rico:
Mario Gonzalez
Aida Canovas
myself

Brasil:
Guilherme Pinto (I think)
maybe Marco Monteiro?
Tatiana Figueiredo


There are many others, of course, who did not continue competing
internationally once in the NCAA.

:)
Adriana

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 21:08:40 -0500 (EST)
From: ***@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Subject: doubt of NCAA on international teams

> another whose name I can't remember right now

Oh, yes, I remember now -- Licurgo Diaz Sandi

Btw, did my post on Miller's compulsory bars routine (in response to
Mara's post) ever get to Gymn? I don't think I ever received it.

:)
Adriana

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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 94 16:34:57 GMT
From: ***@axion.bt.co.uk
Subject: doubt of NCAA on international teams

>Many of Great Britian, Israel, Spain, Mexico, and Southern American
>NATIONAL team members (many of which have been in world chamionships,
>olympics, etc) have participated in the NCAA program over the years

I never said they didnt, but even so it still doesnt represent any
sizeable chunk such that it affects the quality of international
gymnastics. For it to have any noticeable effect I reckon youd need
at least 25% of all competing nations to have had at least 50% of their
national team coached through the NCAA program, bear in mind though that
they are rough estimates, it would depend greatly on which country the
gymnast came from.

So all Im saying is that until the NCAA program reaches a sizeable
saturation, which currently it doesnt appear to be acheiving, then there
will be no effect on the international scene, international meaning every
other country except the USA. I mean put it this way if it did have an
impact dont you think by now somebody would have thought of putting
their team thru the program so they could get some form of advantage from
it.

But were getting sidetracked here so lets get back to my original query
which was, that I dont believe the NCAA is going to listen to people from
anywhere outside the US no matter how many letters I write, because the
decision for bad or for good doesnt directly affect anything outside of
the USA.

Clive

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 18:44:08 -0700 (MST)
From: ***@rmii.com
Subject: Email campaign

Also, I ask you to please make a DIFFERENCE and send in a letter for
the NCAA email campaign. As of this morning we had received only a
few. Granted, we had a weekend, but I was still disppointed.

All you have to do is take a letter that has ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN FOR
YOU!, add your name to the bottom, and send it to one little address!
(cmartin@rainbow.uchicago.edu). As a result, hundreds of letters will
be generated for you and mailed automatically. _Is that so much to
ask?_ For fans who appear to love gymnastics so much, I hope that you
can "walk the walk" and not just "talk the talk" -- sending in a
letter could mean so much. The coaches know about our campaign, as
well as many gymnasts and USA Gymnastics (even the President, Kathy
Scanlan). They are all watching to see how much participation we can
get. Let's show them that Gymn is an active and SINCERE group.

I was approached and asked if Gymn would be a willing helper in this
campaign. I replied that I was certain that our group was committed
to gymnastics and would do all they could to help the sport. I hope,
for the sake of men's gymnastics, that I wasn't wrong!

Rachele

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 08:03:45 -0700 (MST)
From: ***@rmii.com
Subject: Email campaign

Lisa asked me the following question. I thought it best to reply to
Gymn so that everyone would have this info.

| Rachele, would it be all right if I brought in the letters to gymnastics,
| had people there give me their addresses, and e-mailed the letters to the
| address with those other people's addresses at the bottom? Or would they
| be disqualified because they all came from the same e-mail address?

Lisa, this would be a *great* idea and I strongly encourage it!
Nothing would disqualify the letters just because it's from your email
address. In fact, I am going to have a potluck dinner this saturday,
and my friends really don't know much about gymnastics, but I know
that they will sign the letter once I tell them the situation -- so, I
hope to submit at least thirty letters through my email address.

Rachele

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 09:14:28 -0700 (MST)
From: ***@rmii.com
Subject: EMail to Chuck

I had a note from someone who said his email to Chuck is bouncing. If
you have this problem, send the letter to me (at rachele@rmii.com) and
I will hold onto the letters and get them to him. Thanks!

In the following post is yet another letter that you can use -- it
clearly staates that dropping men's gymnastics is a clear violation of
the NCAA mission and purpose.

Rachele

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 09:15:11 -0700 (MST)
From: ***@rmii.com
Subject: gymn

Dear Mr. or Ms. President and/or Athletic Director:

Fired by a deep concern for America's future college male
gymnasts and an exuberant passion for the sport and its future, I call
upon you, loudly and clearly, to continue the NCAA gymnastics
championships! With regard to Bylaw 18.2.10.1, which proposes a
minimum of forty teams for NCAA men's gymnastics championships, I view
it not only as an injustice, but as a blight on our cherished
athletic, social, and cultural heritage, not to extend the current
moratorium through 1997. It is within your power to do this, and I
most sincerely request that you vote YES to Proposal No. 2-124 at the
NCAA convention in San Diego in January, 1995.

The mission of the NCAA, as stated in the NCAA Manual, is ``to
initiate, stimulate and improve intercollegiate athletics programs for
student-athletes.'' [Constitution 1.2-(a)]. Its purpose is to
``cooperate with other amateur athletics organizations in promoting
and conducting national and international events.'' [Constitution
1.2-(g)]. The termination of the NCAA Men's Gymnastics Championships
is a direct contradiction and violation to the noted principles that
were established when sports were there for the development of mind
and body and not the filling of the coffers.

The NCAA men's gymnastics program, culminating in its yearly
NCAA championship, is the cornerstone of America's international
gymnastics team, and at the Barcelona Olympics in 1992, 5 of the 7
team members were NCAA athletes. Moreover, of the 54 male gymnasts who
have competed in Olympic gymnastics since 1960, 49 were students
participating on NCAA-sponsored college gymnastics teams. Clearly, the
NCAA gymnastics program is essential to American international
prestige and performance. Without the continuation of the overall NCAA
program in gymnastics concluding, with the yearly championships,
America's international gymnasts will no longer be able to train as
effectively, and our national program will be jeopardized.

Additionally, many college gymnasts go on to open their own
gymnastics facilities, which provide opportunities for children in our
communities to participate in the sport. Valid research and studies
have shown that there are over 32,000 young American male adolescents
and teenagers training in the sport today. It is these young aspiring
athletes, America's hope for the future, who will suffer if the NCAA
eliminates its college gymnastics championship--a termination that
will certainly result in the elimination of vigorous and vital
collegiate programs in gymnastics. Destruction of these programs will
also destroy the long-term goal that these youth have, in their early
and middle childhood, of competing at the collegiate level in the
sport they love.

The cultural, social, and academic benefits that gymnastics
brings to our nation must be considered when you cast your vote at the
1995 NCAA convention in San Diego. Please vote yes on Proposal No.
2-124, which extends the moratorium on Bylaw 18.2.10.1.

<YourName>
<YourAddress>

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 10:55:37 -0500 (EST)
From: ***@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Subject: More on forced pregnancy story

Olga Karasyova's story about forced pregnancies is in this week's Sports
Illustrated, too. It's a couple of paragraphs stating that the story was
aired Nov. 21 by RTL, a TV station based in Luxembourg and Germany. It
just reports what Frances already said, and that a Vadim Moyesseyev
who "was identified as an official with the Soviet Olympic team in the late
1960s", and also an "unnamed former coach" corroborate her story.

:)
Adriana

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 21:48:16 -0500
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: More on forced pregnancy story

>Olga Karasyova's story about forced pregnancies is in this week's Sports
Illustrated, too.

Sports Illustrated couldn't cover Worlds, but they can cover this? Why am I
not surprised...

Mara

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 14:29:15 -0600 (CST)
From: ***@rainbow.uchicago.edu
Subject: NCAA Men's Gymnastics

Gymners,

Many you who tried to E-mail letters to
cmartin@rainbow.uchicago.edu for the NCAA men's
gymnastics lobbying effort monday had your
E-mail bounced back. The problem is now corrected,
and rainbow.uchicago.edu is back on-line.

We look forward to receiving your support
and will provide an update on the progress ofthe
effort in a few days.


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Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 15:17:32 -0500
From: ***@interlink.net
Subject: New life for world-class competitors...

* * * CIRQUE DU SOLEIL * * *

The acrobatic sports, particularly gymnastics, are greenhouses for much of
the talent so appreciated in the entertainment industry. Cirque du Soleil
offers many opportunities for high level athletes to enter show business,
via the circus arts.

Like Philippe Chartrand*, an artist with the circus since 1990, many
athletes have discovered a new way to use their acrobatic skills, build a
professional career and a new life with Cirque du Soleil.

* Canadian Olympic team member in Los Angeles (1984) and Seoul (1988) -
Canadian Champion from 1985 to 1988.

We are looking for world-class competitors. Can anyone helps us contact any
of this individuals, for example :

Tatiana Gutsu UKR (or her trainer Viktor Dikee)
Svetlana Boginskaya BLR
Lavinia Milosovici ROM
Vitaly Scherbo BLR
Igor Korobchinsky UKR
Cristina Bontas ROM
Valery Belenky AZE
Koyuki Oka CAN
Kim Zmeskal USA

***

Les Productions du Cirque du Soleil
2595, Place Chasse
Montreal (Quebec)
Canada H2Y 2C3
Tel. (514) 527-1480
Fax. (514) 527-7522

***

Serge

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Date: Sun, 04 Dec 94 17:16:46 PST
From: ***@eworld.com
Subject: New life for world-class competitors...

May I say that for those unfamiliar with Cirque Du Soleil, to say the least
it is an entirely fitting and wonderful way for a gymnast to continue his/her
career. We at Li-Nings have had a few wonderful opportunities to have contact
with one of the troupes when the Saltimbanco show was playing here in Los
Angeles. This is a professional group of athletes/performers who imbue in
their audiences a genuine appreciation for all that the human body can do.
Rather than a display of athletics, they express the body as a means of
expressing art and emotion that transcends either dance, theatre, or
athletics.

If any on this list have the least concern about passing on to them contact
information about the athletes Serge mentioned in his post, set them aside. I
cannot imagine that anyone who has ever heard of or seen these performers
will be anything but flattered by an inquiry, and you can rest assured that
any contact will be handled according to the highest level of
professionalism.

David
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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 14:31:30 -0800 (PST)
From: ***@netcom.com
Subject: New life for world-class competitors...

WOW !

Now that lends an aire of legitimacy to our group.
Cirque de Soleil asking US for contact info !
Wow !

By the way, any of you who miss them when they come to town are
being deprived of one of the greatest shows around.
(I dont care if the other guys call themselves the greatest show on earth)
CdS IS the greatest show on earth !

They are a tad more expensive than other circuses, but they are worth it.

-texx

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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 1994 15:49:38 -0700 (MST)
From: ***@asu.edu
Subject: New Skills from Brisbane! (from WTC)

The following moves have been included in the Women's Code of Points.
All were introduced at the Brisbane Worlds. They were thus named after
their respective introducers.

VAULT:

4.507
The Khorkina: ro onto board, flip flop with one half twist onto horse,
piked Cuervo off. (10.00 value)

UNEVEN BARS:

3.402
The Miller: cast to handstand, full turn in handstand phase (also with 1
1/2 half turn- either as 1/2 turn in handstand phase and full turn after
or 1 1/2 turn after). (C-element)

4.315
The Schahaf: Handstand on HB- swing downward between both bars with grip
change to crossgrip, 1/2 turn in range of hang position and swing body
upward with laid-out body to handstand on HB, also with 1/2 turn after
handstand. (C-element)

4.406
The Portocarrero: full-twisting forward giant in inverted grip. (D-element)

4.407
The Zavtseva: front giant in inverted grip, piking last part of upward
swing (eagle giant)-also with 1/2 turn in handstand phase

4.410
The Galloway: giant swing forward with regular grip to handstand on HB.
(D-element)

6.401
The Khorkina: (go get 'em Sveta!) circle forward forward in reverse grip
with 1/2 turn and straddle flight backward over HB to hand on HB. (D-element)

6.501
The Mo-Salto: (go Mo!) eagle grip circle swing on HB with salto forward
tucked over HB to hand on HB in reverse grip (E-element)

7.402
The Luo-Circle: handstand on Hb, stoop into Adler circle (jam) swing
forward through clear extended support near handstand (like what Chus
does but in reg grip). (D-element)

8.409
The Fontaine: Arabian double-front dismount

BALANCE BEAM

1.318
The Poulin: front tuck mount on to sit on one leg with support of hands
behind hips (approach from end of beam). (C-element)

2.404
The Borden or The Hill: straddle pike jump or side split jump
(seperation less than 180 dgr) with 1/2 turn or 3/4 turn. (D-element)

3.204
(Noname-supplemental skill): full twisting or double twisting butt spin.
(B-element)

7.404
The Kochetkova or The Khorkina: full-twisting flip-flop or full-twisting
gainer flip-flop (with full twist done before hand contact)
respectively. (Don't you think they should get seperate #'s since
they're different skills? Duh-uh.)
(D-element)

8.301
Supplemental Poulin: (from beam) front tuck to sit on the beam. Take-off
from one leg, both legs, or stand. (C-element)


Also, the WTC elected Khorkina as their "Nifty Gymnast of the Month"
(November).


Amanda

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 21:49:48 -0500
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: New Skills from Brisbane! (from WTC)

>8.409
>The Fontaine: Arabian double-front dismount


Does anyone know if Lysenko got the double-front with half-turn named after
her (or did someone else do it first)?

Mara

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 14:32:22 +1000
From: ***@pharm.med.upenn.edu
Subject: Save Temple Gymnastics

-- Please note -- I am posting this letter on behalf of the Men's Temple
Gymnastics team -- The address of tri-captain Dubie Bader is
BADDUBIE@VM.TEMPLE.EDU. If you have any questions or comments that you
would like to send to the team please use the above posted address.

This letter, although it has more of the men's information, is also
requesting support for the Women's team as the Athletic Director is also
recommending that they be cut. Any action you take will be deeply
appreciated.


Dear Fans of Gymnastics,

We need your help immediately in a big way.

This week, new athletic director R.C. Johnson announced he was recommending
termination of our men's gymnastics, women's gymnastics and baseball
programs after this season,. His recommendation was approved by our
Athletics Advisory Council (before which both coaches gave a brief
presentation on the merits of the programs) and has been passed on to
university president Liacouras and the Board of Trustees. The reasons
given were a need for the space occupied by our program for general student
body programs (recreation) and budgetary.

We, the team members, need your help now to express outrage, dismay and
disbelief at this action and to urge the President and Board of Trustees to
find an alternative to termination of these programs.

Some of the points made at the AAC meeting for the men's team were:

-We have three current All-American Scholar-Athletes on the team
-Our team had the highest GPA of all of Temple's men's teams last year
-The facility and equipment (shared by both teams) is used by other athletes
-Although not requested to raise portions of our budget, we have raised
significant portions of it through donations.
-We have had a man on the past World Championships, Olympic, Pan Am and
World University Games teams. Our coach, Fred Turoff, has been on the
national coaching staff for the past four years.
-Bill Roth, currently ranked 2nd in the US, was produced by the Temple
program and still trains in the Temple gym.

It is most ironic that in the latest issue of USA GYMNASTICS, the men's
coach is quoted on the "Holiday Spirit" page saying "I'm thankful that
Temple University has continued to support its men's gymnastics program."

Time is of the essence. Please made your feelings known to President
Liacouras, athletic director R.C. Johnson, board chair Fox and the news
media (TV, newspapers, radio) as soon as possible. The board meets
December 13. Addresses and phone numbers are below.

Dubie Bader
Tri-Captain
Men's Temple Gymnastics team


President Peter Liacouras
Temple University 007-01
Philadelphia, Pa 19122
215-204-7405

Richard J. Fox
Chair, Board of Trustees
Temple University 041-06
Philadelphia, PA 19122

Sports Editor Frank Dolson
Sports Reporter Mike Jensen
Philadelphia Inquirer
400 N. Broad St.
Philadelphia, Pa 19130

Mike Kern
Sports department
Philadelphia Daily news
400 N. Broad St.
Philadelphia, PA 19130

Ukee Washington
KYW-TV 3
Independence Mall East
Philadelphia, PA 19106
215-238-4700

Sports Dept.
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Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 14:25:48 -0500
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Ticket info on AC 95?

Does anyone have any ticket info on the American Cup coming to Seattle next
year? Any info is appreciated greatly.:-)---Brian

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 00:47:00 UTC
From: ***@genie.geis.com
Subject: Ticket info on AC 95?

>Does anyone have any ticket info on the American Cup coming to Seattle next
>year? Any info is appreciated greatly.

Try calling the USAG; they can tell you the day tickets will go on sale.

Debbie


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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 14:54:23 +1000
From: ***@pharm.med.upenn.edu
Subject: UMASS gymnastics open results

This weekend Umass held its annual gymnatics open.

Rachele and I had the pleasure of working at this meet - the competion was
very good.

I don't have time to post impressions and such, but I will post results so
that you can see how the season is starting, at least here on the US east
coast.

Please note that NCAA is only counting 4 scores to the team total intead of
5 this year.

Team:
Penn State 224.450
Temple 224.400
U. Michigan 218.500
Syracuse 216.15
Army 213.400
UMass 210.950
U Vermont 170.400
MIT 166.400
Southern Conn. 155.10

All-Around
Danny Akerman Temple 56.950
Tony Pansy Penn State 56.500
Steve Marshall Army 56.400
Ofri Porat Syracuse 55.400
Cal Booker Daggett 55.350
Dubie Bader Temple 55.150
Brandy Wood Penn State 54.700

FX
Jason Braud UMass Alum 9.90
Ofri Porat Syracuse 9.75
Shane Geraghty Syracuse 9.65 (member of gymn)
Rich Dopp U Mich 9.60
Darin Gerlach Temple 9.55
Danny Akerman Temple 9.55
Brian Winkler U MIch 9.55

PH
Tom Ellefson Penn State 9.75
Danny Akerman Temple 9.70
Mike Sivulka Army 9.65
Tony Pansy Penn State 9.65
Steve Marshall Army 9.55
Roy Malka Penn State 9.50

R
Dave Frank Temple 9.9
Kevin Schwartz UMass 9.8
Ofri Porat Syracuse 9.65
Jean Marc Michel Penn State 9.65
Ruslan Shupack UMass 9.55
Danny Akerman Temple 9.55

V
Ofri Porat Syracuse 9.60
Darrin Gerlach Temple 9.45
Brian Winkler U Mich 9.4
Michael Emmons Syracuse 9.4
Tony Pansy Penn State 9.35
Danny Akerman Temple 9.35
Jeff LaVallee Daggett 9.35

PB
Tony Pansy Penn State 9.60
Tom Ellefson Penn State 9.50
Danny Akerman Temple 9.45
Steve Marshall Army 9.45
Brian Winkler U Mich 9.4
Brandy Wood Penn State 9.4

HB
Cal Booker Daggett 9.7
Jeff LaVallee Daggett 9.65
Tony Pansy Penn State 9.65
Dubie Bader Temple 9.45
Kris Klinger U Mich 9.40
Thomas Ellefson Penn State 9.35
Danny Akerman Temple 9.35





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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 94 20:08 EST
From: ***@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Subject: UMASS gymnastics open results

>Rachele and I had the pleasure of working at this meet - the competion was
>
What's Rachele doing in the East?

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